I listened yesterday and wanted to comment then but didn't have the opportunity. I hope I don't stray too far off topic since I can't quite remember what all you talked about, though as usual, what you say always resonates and gets me thinking.
I think most women can relate to how little we, as women, are taken seriously and really listened to, not only by men but even by other women who give more credence to what men have to say than what other women have to say. And while we as girls and women show interest and engage with "all things men" it doesn't go the other way around. I've noticed and have pointed it out for years. Just the fact that we as women automatically adapt ourselves to male oriented language, such as the word "mankind" and phrases like "all men are equal", I can only imagine if it were reversed and men had to include themselves into language that were more female oriented. Imagine if men instead of mankind, the word was womankind, and men were supposed to instinctively accept that they were included, because that's exactly what we as women have always had to do.
What bothers me even more, however, is when women alienate other women by clinging to the male norms even to the point of betraying other women. In my opinion, this is exactly what many women who support Trump or Andrew Tate, so publicly misogynist and yet nothing they do or say that degrade or humiliate women is enough to turn many women against them.
In contrast we have this brotherhood of males who bump fists and high five each other and call each other "bros" even in short encounters with men they just meet for a moment. Where is the sisterhood for women? No! What we've been conditioned to do is to be leery of each other and to view other women as threats. The indoctrination begins from the time we are young, that males are the ones who are most important.
I don't know how this will change, especially in today's climate of misogyny and leadership, if that's what to call it, where disgusting men are made heroes and strong women (feminists) are blamed for everything wrong with society. Even when I hear the voices of strong, wise women, like you, Jill, there are no means in place for us to actually get to know one another, so just like what is said about men, it becomes all talk. Unless we are able to find ways to bring us together, I don't see how we will ever be able to affect change. I think that's part of your frustration. You have a lot to say and to bring to awareness, but then what? One podcast becomes another, and no matter how much I (or we) agree, it ends there as there ain't much one can do as a party of one! I find it very difficult to meet with other like minded women as they all live in their own little worlds or they occupy a world, like the ones wearing red hats and shooting their dogs, that I want nothing to do with.
I admire you for how you try to affect change by raising awareness and asking questions, but as the world plummets further and faster into Patriarchy and Authoritarianism on steroids, I just don't know that it's enough. Unless and until wise women come together and say enough is enough, it's just not going to change. Certainly not by any decision that the men will make.
"The problem is not women screaming Patriarchy, it's women not screaming sooner and louder! "
This is the part I do not accept. Patriarchy is what made advanced civilization possible. Patriarchy is what protects women from nature and its predators. Patriarchy is what teaches and motivates men to accept their expendability and lay down their lives for their families and their countries. If you get rid of Patriarchy you really and truly turn men in to your biggest enemies.
Patriarchy is not Authoritarianism, except to the extent that it is authoritarianism on men.
My evidence is the historical fact that the human race survived and prospered as long as Patriarchy was strong, and it declined and crashed and burned when Patriarchy was weak.
I've heard women say "it's a man's world." Well, it is a man's world in the sense that it is harsh and mean and unforgiving and wants you dead and it requires manly qualities in order to subdue it and overcome it and survive and prosper in it. Jill is an amazing woman who has managed to retain her femininity whilst applying her manly side to help her survive in tough conditions. I've listened carefully to her, and she's getting tired of it, like any normal person would. The difference for a man is a man is told to shut up and deal with it.
You're right James, Jill is an amazing woman. But could you explain what you mean by "she has managed to retain her femininity whilst applying her manly side to help her survive in tough conditions"? I'd like to better understand your definition of femininity and how it applies to Jill.
Jill is like other strong and powerful women I personally know in real life who are feminists without being feminazis. She accomplishes things by her own efforts instead of feeding her ego by putting other people down and insulting them or demanding unreasonable concessions that feminazis call "fairness" and "equity."
She is not like the childish and demanding spoiled rotten brats that I also know in real life. Since I only know Jill indirectly by her podcasts, she might not be like what I have gleaned from listening to her for the last few years. But I've become very discerning about these things. For one example of the contrast I'm referring to here is that whilst I've heard Jill express rational concerns (though she never sounds afraid, which is so impressive to me) about men and what they could do, I can't imagine her saying that she'd rather be around a random bear than a random man.
The error of Feminism was thinking that men would never make moves to defend themselves. This error was on the part of women. It was not an error committed by the communist wacko misanthropes who concocted and spread "Feminism." I can tell you quite plainly with all sincerity that I do not appreciate being alienated from women. I hate the mistrust and distrust and hostility and antagonism that has come between men and women. But if you run around screaming "Patriarchy" at men who are only trying to work hard and pay their family's bills and protect them from the predators that the Demonic Rats turn loose to roam the streets, men will eventually get tired of doing their Patriarchal thing.
I think that the collapse of society which you observe all around you is in fact what you get when you destroy the Patriarchy. Because, Patriarchy was about men's duties and responsibilities, not men's privileges and entitlements.
Another question for you, James. Do you think marriage between a man and a woman (in a legal sense) would exist without Patriarchy, historically as well is in the present?
I think the human race can't exist without Patriarchy, so, no, men and women and marriage cannot exist without Patriarchy. But I don't think you as yet understand Patriarchy. You think that Patriarchy is oppression and authoritarianism against poor little innocent women. But the truth is Patriarchy is about the framework that allows men to serve the needs and desires of women and children.
Like it says in Philippians 2:
4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
It's interesting to me how convinced you are that the human race would not exist without Patriarchy and that you don't see the irony in that considering how close the rule of men (Patriarchy) has brought us to annihilation and complete destruction of the planet. You can't blame that on "Feminazis" (whatever that means to you),
But I have to agree with you again, that marriage would not exist without Patriarchy. I'm not going to use your definition of Patriarchy, but a commonly agreed upon one which is " Patriarchy is a social system in which positions of dominance and privilege are held by men". There is still some debate on when Patriarchal rule began though it is generally believed that the advent of agriculture was a pivotal moment in time that led to the rise of Patriarchy. And this is where marriage comes in to coincide with the role of agriculture and how it relates to marriage.
When humans found animals that could be controlled and owned and no longer had to "follow the food", at some point there was the discovery that it took two opposite sexes to "produce" offspring. Before that no one was there to tell humans that human life was formed by the union of a man and woman and nine months of gestation. A woman's belly swelled and 9 months later there was a new human and women were seen as the life givers, by nature. When a child comes from the belly of a woman, no one asks who is the mother of this child because of the obvious! When sex education was gained through agricultural practices (known as animal husbandry) the only way males could claim possession of a child was if the woman he had sex with was segregated and kept only for him. Marriage "joins" a woman to a man, and historically not by the choice of the woman choosing this. As soon as a girl was menstruating she would historically be "married off" to a man chosen by her father. The man became her husband and her main role historically has been to "produce" many children for the man, her husband. Sound familiar? Sort of like animal husbandry? It should.
And while the man could have many wives, producing many children for him, the woman was as much his property as the children were. Women began to demand more from life (I guess in your mind they became the Feminazis) and made progress, though in some parts of the world things are just as they had always been and women are still under complete control of Patriarchal rule unchanged from how it had been across the globe. I think it's clear what parts of the world I am talking about.
And now, here we are again, with a certain segment of our society stripping women of their hard won rights to make decisions about their own autonomy based on a book that you so love to quote from. And this same segment says little about the humble Jesus who didn't believe in Patriarchal rule and in fact butted up against it, which is probably one of the main reasons, if not the main reason, they killed him. This segment likes to quote from that same book about a Jesus calling to take up the sword! Geez, what other religion that comes from this same book loves to wield the sword?
Perhaps if you read a little more history (which is really more HIS story, than HER story) you might be able to broaden your definition and understanding of Patriarchy. By the way, there are still a few (though just a very few) of non-patriarchal societies still in existence upon this earth and the people in these societies are egalitarian and not in conflict with each other based on gender.
I doubt you'd be interested because it might open your eyes to something other than your firmly held beliefs, but there is a people called the Mosuo who are do not hold the Patriarchal values that you claim the human race cannot exist without. There are several others, though globalization threatens theses cultures and it's probably only a matter of time before they are absorbed into the majority rule of Patriarchy. There is a Youtube video about them here. Watch at your own risk of learning something https://youtu.be/qMTJt2RnJAk?si=QgGjl2t85YHz-yjK
I'll watch your video, with an open mind. You assume I'm ideological but the reason I hold the opinions I do is a result of empirical observation. An example of the difference would be my belief in "Gravity." I believe in "Gravity" because I observe it, the effects it has on physical bodies composed of matter in the world. I've observed that Sir Isaac Newton measured these effects and came up with mathematical formulas in order to turn the observations in to useful practical knowledge that allows planes to fly, among other things. But nobody knows what it is.
I hope you do watch the video and appreciate that you will watch with an open mind. The point is that there is more than one way to do anything and that our perspective comes from how much we are willing to open ourselves up to looking at and thinking about. Would you have an "empirical observation" of gravity if Isaac Newton hadn't studied it and developed a word for it? What if we had never been to space? What would we know about weightlessness? If someone had told you that you'd be floating around in the air if you were in space, would you believe it without the knowledge that was gained from space travel? My point is that you can't trust "empirical observation" because it limits you to what you know, or think you know. If what was learned in space had not been widely shared and I as an astronaut tried to tell you, and you alone, about my experience with weightlessness in space, I doubt you would believe what I was telling you. Not because you are lacking intelligence but because there was not the "empirical observation" of it for you to consider that it might be true. That is how humans box themselves and keep their minds small. By affirming that Patriarchy is how things have always been done and that without Patriarchy the world would fall apart (which is it, under Patriarchy) you have failed to look beyond as you put it, emperical observation. But you can't observe if all you are looking at is what has been put in front of you. It's like that old saying, can't see the forest for the trees. Leave earth and go to space and you see a whole different picture. Look past the trees and go deep into the forest to discover what you may not have seen or looked for before and you will see a whole new world of possibility. There is so much more I could say about Patriarchy and how it has created what we have, and depending on how you look at it, that is either good or not so good. But Patriarchy is not how it's only been, nor is it the only means of creating societies. And if and when people are willing to look beyond the trees or the earth we created by our beliefs, we could create something else. Something better, that works bettere for everyone and not just a certain subgroup.
So much I want to say to you in response that I don't know where best to start. I guess I will start with the title to the podcast which is "Our role as women". Within the first few minutes Jill talks about cycles and says "for women give or take the first 6 thousand or so years, it's been a very specific cycle in terms of us (women) stepping back... shutting off that 5th chakra , not speaking up and letting a Patriarchal society move forward....yadda yadda yadda.... and that we are coming to a shift. She goes on about how women listen and try to understand men, but that men do not reciprocate by listening an trying to understand women. And I think you help to make this point in several ways.
First off, you equate Feminism with communist wacko misanthropes and then imply that women are running around screaming "Patriarchy" at men who "are only trying to work hard and pay their family's bills and protect them from predators". Perhaps that is how you see yourself and the men you surround yourself with.
But that is not the primary and most common experience of women, old and young, who live within a masculine world system that does NOT protect them from the predators, who often turn out to be the very men that women have most trusted, namely husbands, boyfriends and men that women believed they were safe with until they were not. There is shocking story after story of so-called "family men" who everyone would describe just as you had described those men, when the reality is that a woman is more likely to be murdered by her husband or other close male associate than by a stranger. And if women are beginning to "scream" it's because until that's what we do it seems men don't listen! How many women did it take to convict Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein, or Jeffrey Epstein? And no matter how many women cult leader Trump molests, rapes, assaults, and then brags about it, he still has the respect of thousands of people who have no problem with slime like him becoming the ruler of our country, and this world! The problem is not women screaming Patriarchy, it's women not screaming sooner and louder! And of course there is pushback. There was no error by Feminists thinking there would be none, it was a given! But no matter how nicely we ask men to share their power with us, who frankly outnumber men, it's a no go, and men simply don't want to give up any power, and THAT is why there is pushback, not because we were too stupid to think that it would happen. And that, James, is what Patriarchy is and has been about, POWER! Not simply, as you put it, "men trying to work hard and pay their family's bills and protect them from predators."
I assume that you will reassert yourself into this "women's podcast" with some further attempt to over-ride this mere women with the wisdom of the male, so have at it. I've said what I feel needed to be said. Have a good day.
You think it's a power struggle because you're deceived by Satanic delusions, which is the weakness of women. The weakness of men on the other hand is women.
Eve was tempted by the fruit of the tree in the midst of the Garden, because the fruit was pleasing to the eyes and good for food, and it was on a tree to be desired to make one wise. Adam, on the other hand, was tempted by Eve, because she was beautiful and he loved her and he preferred at the time to be with her instead of God. It may be that the descendants of Adam changed their minds, but, it seems obvious, the descendants of Eve, as it were, have never changed their minds.
If you want to make it a power struggle, just what makes you think that women will have a chance? Your best bet as women is to make it a love struggle.
I listened yesterday and wanted to comment then but didn't have the opportunity. I hope I don't stray too far off topic since I can't quite remember what all you talked about, though as usual, what you say always resonates and gets me thinking.
I think most women can relate to how little we, as women, are taken seriously and really listened to, not only by men but even by other women who give more credence to what men have to say than what other women have to say. And while we as girls and women show interest and engage with "all things men" it doesn't go the other way around. I've noticed and have pointed it out for years. Just the fact that we as women automatically adapt ourselves to male oriented language, such as the word "mankind" and phrases like "all men are equal", I can only imagine if it were reversed and men had to include themselves into language that were more female oriented. Imagine if men instead of mankind, the word was womankind, and men were supposed to instinctively accept that they were included, because that's exactly what we as women have always had to do.
What bothers me even more, however, is when women alienate other women by clinging to the male norms even to the point of betraying other women. In my opinion, this is exactly what many women who support Trump or Andrew Tate, so publicly misogynist and yet nothing they do or say that degrade or humiliate women is enough to turn many women against them.
In contrast we have this brotherhood of males who bump fists and high five each other and call each other "bros" even in short encounters with men they just meet for a moment. Where is the sisterhood for women? No! What we've been conditioned to do is to be leery of each other and to view other women as threats. The indoctrination begins from the time we are young, that males are the ones who are most important.
I don't know how this will change, especially in today's climate of misogyny and leadership, if that's what to call it, where disgusting men are made heroes and strong women (feminists) are blamed for everything wrong with society. Even when I hear the voices of strong, wise women, like you, Jill, there are no means in place for us to actually get to know one another, so just like what is said about men, it becomes all talk. Unless we are able to find ways to bring us together, I don't see how we will ever be able to affect change. I think that's part of your frustration. You have a lot to say and to bring to awareness, but then what? One podcast becomes another, and no matter how much I (or we) agree, it ends there as there ain't much one can do as a party of one! I find it very difficult to meet with other like minded women as they all live in their own little worlds or they occupy a world, like the ones wearing red hats and shooting their dogs, that I want nothing to do with.
I admire you for how you try to affect change by raising awareness and asking questions, but as the world plummets further and faster into Patriarchy and Authoritarianism on steroids, I just don't know that it's enough. Unless and until wise women come together and say enough is enough, it's just not going to change. Certainly not by any decision that the men will make.
"The problem is not women screaming Patriarchy, it's women not screaming sooner and louder! "
This is the part I do not accept. Patriarchy is what made advanced civilization possible. Patriarchy is what protects women from nature and its predators. Patriarchy is what teaches and motivates men to accept their expendability and lay down their lives for their families and their countries. If you get rid of Patriarchy you really and truly turn men in to your biggest enemies.
Patriarchy is not Authoritarianism, except to the extent that it is authoritarianism on men.
My evidence is the historical fact that the human race survived and prospered as long as Patriarchy was strong, and it declined and crashed and burned when Patriarchy was weak.
I've heard women say "it's a man's world." Well, it is a man's world in the sense that it is harsh and mean and unforgiving and wants you dead and it requires manly qualities in order to subdue it and overcome it and survive and prosper in it. Jill is an amazing woman who has managed to retain her femininity whilst applying her manly side to help her survive in tough conditions. I've listened carefully to her, and she's getting tired of it, like any normal person would. The difference for a man is a man is told to shut up and deal with it.
You're right James, Jill is an amazing woman. But could you explain what you mean by "she has managed to retain her femininity whilst applying her manly side to help her survive in tough conditions"? I'd like to better understand your definition of femininity and how it applies to Jill.
Jill is like other strong and powerful women I personally know in real life who are feminists without being feminazis. She accomplishes things by her own efforts instead of feeding her ego by putting other people down and insulting them or demanding unreasonable concessions that feminazis call "fairness" and "equity."
She is not like the childish and demanding spoiled rotten brats that I also know in real life. Since I only know Jill indirectly by her podcasts, she might not be like what I have gleaned from listening to her for the last few years. But I've become very discerning about these things. For one example of the contrast I'm referring to here is that whilst I've heard Jill express rational concerns (though she never sounds afraid, which is so impressive to me) about men and what they could do, I can't imagine her saying that she'd rather be around a random bear than a random man.
The error of Feminism was thinking that men would never make moves to defend themselves. This error was on the part of women. It was not an error committed by the communist wacko misanthropes who concocted and spread "Feminism." I can tell you quite plainly with all sincerity that I do not appreciate being alienated from women. I hate the mistrust and distrust and hostility and antagonism that has come between men and women. But if you run around screaming "Patriarchy" at men who are only trying to work hard and pay their family's bills and protect them from the predators that the Demonic Rats turn loose to roam the streets, men will eventually get tired of doing their Patriarchal thing.
I think that the collapse of society which you observe all around you is in fact what you get when you destroy the Patriarchy. Because, Patriarchy was about men's duties and responsibilities, not men's privileges and entitlements.
Another question for you, James. Do you think marriage between a man and a woman (in a legal sense) would exist without Patriarchy, historically as well is in the present?
I think the human race can't exist without Patriarchy, so, no, men and women and marriage cannot exist without Patriarchy. But I don't think you as yet understand Patriarchy. You think that Patriarchy is oppression and authoritarianism against poor little innocent women. But the truth is Patriarchy is about the framework that allows men to serve the needs and desires of women and children.
Like it says in Philippians 2:
4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
It's interesting to me how convinced you are that the human race would not exist without Patriarchy and that you don't see the irony in that considering how close the rule of men (Patriarchy) has brought us to annihilation and complete destruction of the planet. You can't blame that on "Feminazis" (whatever that means to you),
But I have to agree with you again, that marriage would not exist without Patriarchy. I'm not going to use your definition of Patriarchy, but a commonly agreed upon one which is " Patriarchy is a social system in which positions of dominance and privilege are held by men". There is still some debate on when Patriarchal rule began though it is generally believed that the advent of agriculture was a pivotal moment in time that led to the rise of Patriarchy. And this is where marriage comes in to coincide with the role of agriculture and how it relates to marriage.
When humans found animals that could be controlled and owned and no longer had to "follow the food", at some point there was the discovery that it took two opposite sexes to "produce" offspring. Before that no one was there to tell humans that human life was formed by the union of a man and woman and nine months of gestation. A woman's belly swelled and 9 months later there was a new human and women were seen as the life givers, by nature. When a child comes from the belly of a woman, no one asks who is the mother of this child because of the obvious! When sex education was gained through agricultural practices (known as animal husbandry) the only way males could claim possession of a child was if the woman he had sex with was segregated and kept only for him. Marriage "joins" a woman to a man, and historically not by the choice of the woman choosing this. As soon as a girl was menstruating she would historically be "married off" to a man chosen by her father. The man became her husband and her main role historically has been to "produce" many children for the man, her husband. Sound familiar? Sort of like animal husbandry? It should.
And while the man could have many wives, producing many children for him, the woman was as much his property as the children were. Women began to demand more from life (I guess in your mind they became the Feminazis) and made progress, though in some parts of the world things are just as they had always been and women are still under complete control of Patriarchal rule unchanged from how it had been across the globe. I think it's clear what parts of the world I am talking about.
And now, here we are again, with a certain segment of our society stripping women of their hard won rights to make decisions about their own autonomy based on a book that you so love to quote from. And this same segment says little about the humble Jesus who didn't believe in Patriarchal rule and in fact butted up against it, which is probably one of the main reasons, if not the main reason, they killed him. This segment likes to quote from that same book about a Jesus calling to take up the sword! Geez, what other religion that comes from this same book loves to wield the sword?
Perhaps if you read a little more history (which is really more HIS story, than HER story) you might be able to broaden your definition and understanding of Patriarchy. By the way, there are still a few (though just a very few) of non-patriarchal societies still in existence upon this earth and the people in these societies are egalitarian and not in conflict with each other based on gender.
I doubt you'd be interested because it might open your eyes to something other than your firmly held beliefs, but there is a people called the Mosuo who are do not hold the Patriarchal values that you claim the human race cannot exist without. There are several others, though globalization threatens theses cultures and it's probably only a matter of time before they are absorbed into the majority rule of Patriarchy. There is a Youtube video about them here. Watch at your own risk of learning something https://youtu.be/qMTJt2RnJAk?si=QgGjl2t85YHz-yjK
I'll watch your video, with an open mind. You assume I'm ideological but the reason I hold the opinions I do is a result of empirical observation. An example of the difference would be my belief in "Gravity." I believe in "Gravity" because I observe it, the effects it has on physical bodies composed of matter in the world. I've observed that Sir Isaac Newton measured these effects and came up with mathematical formulas in order to turn the observations in to useful practical knowledge that allows planes to fly, among other things. But nobody knows what it is.
I hope you do watch the video and appreciate that you will watch with an open mind. The point is that there is more than one way to do anything and that our perspective comes from how much we are willing to open ourselves up to looking at and thinking about. Would you have an "empirical observation" of gravity if Isaac Newton hadn't studied it and developed a word for it? What if we had never been to space? What would we know about weightlessness? If someone had told you that you'd be floating around in the air if you were in space, would you believe it without the knowledge that was gained from space travel? My point is that you can't trust "empirical observation" because it limits you to what you know, or think you know. If what was learned in space had not been widely shared and I as an astronaut tried to tell you, and you alone, about my experience with weightlessness in space, I doubt you would believe what I was telling you. Not because you are lacking intelligence but because there was not the "empirical observation" of it for you to consider that it might be true. That is how humans box themselves and keep their minds small. By affirming that Patriarchy is how things have always been done and that without Patriarchy the world would fall apart (which is it, under Patriarchy) you have failed to look beyond as you put it, emperical observation. But you can't observe if all you are looking at is what has been put in front of you. It's like that old saying, can't see the forest for the trees. Leave earth and go to space and you see a whole different picture. Look past the trees and go deep into the forest to discover what you may not have seen or looked for before and you will see a whole new world of possibility. There is so much more I could say about Patriarchy and how it has created what we have, and depending on how you look at it, that is either good or not so good. But Patriarchy is not how it's only been, nor is it the only means of creating societies. And if and when people are willing to look beyond the trees or the earth we created by our beliefs, we could create something else. Something better, that works bettere for everyone and not just a certain subgroup.
So much I want to say to you in response that I don't know where best to start. I guess I will start with the title to the podcast which is "Our role as women". Within the first few minutes Jill talks about cycles and says "for women give or take the first 6 thousand or so years, it's been a very specific cycle in terms of us (women) stepping back... shutting off that 5th chakra , not speaking up and letting a Patriarchal society move forward....yadda yadda yadda.... and that we are coming to a shift. She goes on about how women listen and try to understand men, but that men do not reciprocate by listening an trying to understand women. And I think you help to make this point in several ways.
First off, you equate Feminism with communist wacko misanthropes and then imply that women are running around screaming "Patriarchy" at men who "are only trying to work hard and pay their family's bills and protect them from predators". Perhaps that is how you see yourself and the men you surround yourself with.
But that is not the primary and most common experience of women, old and young, who live within a masculine world system that does NOT protect them from the predators, who often turn out to be the very men that women have most trusted, namely husbands, boyfriends and men that women believed they were safe with until they were not. There is shocking story after story of so-called "family men" who everyone would describe just as you had described those men, when the reality is that a woman is more likely to be murdered by her husband or other close male associate than by a stranger. And if women are beginning to "scream" it's because until that's what we do it seems men don't listen! How many women did it take to convict Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein, or Jeffrey Epstein? And no matter how many women cult leader Trump molests, rapes, assaults, and then brags about it, he still has the respect of thousands of people who have no problem with slime like him becoming the ruler of our country, and this world! The problem is not women screaming Patriarchy, it's women not screaming sooner and louder! And of course there is pushback. There was no error by Feminists thinking there would be none, it was a given! But no matter how nicely we ask men to share their power with us, who frankly outnumber men, it's a no go, and men simply don't want to give up any power, and THAT is why there is pushback, not because we were too stupid to think that it would happen. And that, James, is what Patriarchy is and has been about, POWER! Not simply, as you put it, "men trying to work hard and pay their family's bills and protect them from predators."
I assume that you will reassert yourself into this "women's podcast" with some further attempt to over-ride this mere women with the wisdom of the male, so have at it. I've said what I feel needed to be said. Have a good day.
You think it's a power struggle because you're deceived by Satanic delusions, which is the weakness of women. The weakness of men on the other hand is women.
Eve was tempted by the fruit of the tree in the midst of the Garden, because the fruit was pleasing to the eyes and good for food, and it was on a tree to be desired to make one wise. Adam, on the other hand, was tempted by Eve, because she was beautiful and he loved her and he preferred at the time to be with her instead of God. It may be that the descendants of Adam changed their minds, but, it seems obvious, the descendants of Eve, as it were, have never changed their minds.
If you want to make it a power struggle, just what makes you think that women will have a chance? Your best bet as women is to make it a love struggle.
Thank you for your comment and support ☺️❤️ We just clean up our own house for now, one at a time 🤗
🌼🌸🌻😊🌺